Bought-and-paid-for optionality: the company already holds a second, unmonetized position it can switch on at will
The model's full reasoning — Q2 2021 call → NOThe question asks whether management describes a second, largely unmonetized position that the company already possesses, whose future use is largely within the company's own control, and whether management is actively deciding how and when to turn that holding into revenue. Let me analyze the transcript for such a situation. Key elements to look for: 1. A real holding the company already has, not what pays the bills today. 2. It is currently producing little or nothing, and management says so. 3. Management is now working on converting it, and the decision is largely theirs. Let me look at the transcript. Doug Ostrover mentions: "we are in the process of largely growing funds focused on GP Lending, co-investments and secondary investments" - this is about growing funds, not a dormant holding. Michael Rees mentions: "we kicked off our business unit focused on investing in sports and media industries. Dyal HomeCourt, our fund focused on taking minority stakes and teams within the National Basketball Association, launched and has two existing minority investments." - This is a new business unit, but it's already launched and has investments. It's not a dormant holding. Doug Ostrover mentions retail: "we're currently in the market with our core income fund. Our sales have exceeded over $100 million month. But most of those sales have been in the independent broker/dealer channel. As I mentioned now we are expanding into wire house distribution." - This is about expanding distribution, not a dormant holding. Let me think about the "AUM not yet paying fees" - $8.5 billion of AUM that doesn't yet earn fees but will once capital is deployed. This is mentioned by Alan Kirshenbaum: "AUMs not yet paying fees reached $8.5 billion This AUM once deployed corresponds to an increase in expected annual management fees totaling $120 million." Is this a "real holding the company already has"? It's capital that has been raised but not yet deployed. The company earns management fees once deployed. This is capital already raised - it's in hand. It's not producing fees yet. And management is working on deploying it - the decision is largely theirs (subject to finding good deals, but they control the deployment pace). Let me check the criteria: (1) A REAL HOLDING THE COMPANY ALREADY HAS, THAT IS NOT WHAT PAYS THE BILLS TODAY. - The $8.5 billion of AUM not yet paying fees.
| Ticker | Company | Call | Date | Call grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| LEGH | Legacy Housing Corporation | Q4 2023 | 2024-03-18 | C |
| DM | Desktop Metal, Inc. | Q2 2022 | 2022-08-08 | F |
| FAT | FAT Brands Inc. | Q4 2021 | 2022-03-21 | F |
| CLMT | Calumet Specialty Products Partners, L.P | Q1 2018 | 2018-05-16 | C+ |
| UPLD | Upland Software, Inc. | Q4 2017 | 2018-03-08 | C+ |
| FCX | Freeport-McMoRan Inc. | Q3 2017 | 2017-10-25 | D |
CLMT · Q1 2018 → YESThe question is about whether management describes an already possessed second, largely unmonetized position that they can switch on themselves. YES The transcript shows management describing the Biosynthetic Technologies acquisition as a real holding already in hand (completed Q1 2018, with 71 issued patents, 76 pending, exclusive USDA license), separate from the operations generating current results. It contributes little today (only $4M acquisition expenses noted, no revenue yet), and management is actively deciding how and when to monetize it—via low-capex proof-of-concept at the Missouri esters plant, new product innovation center, and third-party involvement—within their control. This fits the criteria as a dormant capability they are now sequencing for revenue.
LEGH · Q4 2023 → YESThe question is about whether management describes a second, largely unmonetized position that the company already possesses, whose future use is largely within their control, and they're actively dec...YES The transcript shows management describing land holdings as a second, largely unmonetized position separate from current operations. They hired a dedicated team to prioritize and accelerate land development, with Del Val Bastrop County as the top priority, and note capital is accelerating for this project.
FCX · Q3 2017 → YESThe question is about whether management describes a second, largely unmonetized position that they already possess, whose future use is within their control, and they're actively deciding how and whe...YES The transcript shows management describing exactly this situation: the company already owns large undeveloped sulfide resources (Lone Star oxide/sulfide, El Abra sulfide, Kisanfu cobalt, additional Grasberg material) that are not part of current production and contribute little to today's results.