Priced like the old business, running like a new one: management is redirecting the call away from the metric investors
The model's full reasoning — Q4 2023 call → NOWe need to determine if management repeatedly redirects attention away from the conventional measure and toward a different part of the business that is already earning, and indicates that the record has not caught up. Let's analyze the transcript. The company is Green Plains Inc., an ethanol producer. The conventional yardstick is likely ethanol crush margins, ethanol production, etc. Management discusses many things: protein, dextrose (clean sugar), carbon capture, etc. Key points: Todd Becker says "we reported a solid quarter... $44.7 million in EBITDA and a plant utilization rate of 95%. In addition, this was our highest quarter yet of Ultra-High Protein production, along with our highest ever corn oil yields, but we still have further to go and more to unlock." So they highlight protein and corn oil. Later: "Our team continues to execute on maximizing the opportunity across our entire platform, and we believe there is additional upside on our portfolio of assets that we aim to achieve as we move through 2024." They talk about strategic review, but that's not the redirection. They discuss "the start of 2024 had many events that has led us to this point, where our structure has been simplified and we are ready to bear the fruits of our labor on the path we laid out a few years ago." They talk about "our protein production in 2024, and the fourth quarter was another good quarter of production with 66,000 tons of sales and a bit of a build on inventory because we produced 60% protein at a commercial scale in Wood River, and we have now just started to ship some early adopters, some volumes." So protein is a key part. They also talk about "renewable corn oil production saw another impressive quarter with the highest yield for our platform yet." They talk about "Clean Sugar" technology, dextrose, which is not yet commercial? They say "we are in the process of beginning to commission our first, and the world's first, commercial-scale Clean Sugar technology system... we believe we will be ready to begin delivering product in the beginning of the second quarter." So that's not yet earning. They talk about carbon capture, which is future.
| Ticker | Company | Call | Date | Call grade |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| NOAH | Noah Holdings Limited | Q1 2024 | 2024-05-30 | D |
| DUOT | Duos Technologies Group, Inc. | Q4 2023 | 2024-04-01 | F |
| OPAD | Offerpad Solutions Inc. | Q3 2023 | 2023-11-01 | C |
| SPT | Sprout Social, Inc. | Q2 2023 | 2023-08-04 | B+ |
| PRPH | ProPhase Labs, Inc. | Q1 2023 | 2023-05-11 | F |
| CALX | Calix, Inc. | Q1 2023 | 2023-04-20 | C+ |
| WD | Walker & Dunlop, Inc. | Q2 2022 | 2022-08-09 | C+ |
| LC | LendingClub Corporation | Q4 2021 | 2022-01-26 | A |
| CYBR | CyberArk Software Ltd. | Q3 2021 | 2021-11-04 | B+ |
| LPTH | LightPath Technologies, Inc. | Q4 2021 | 2021-09-09 | D |
| LOB | Live Oak Bancshares, Inc. | Q3 2018 | 2018-10-25 | C+ |
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