Priced like the old business, running like a new one: management is redirecting the call away from the metric investors
The model's full reasoning — Q3 2021 call → NOWe need answer only YES or NO. Need analyze transcript for phenomenon. Need determine if management repeatedly redirects attention away from conventional yardstick to different part already earning, and indicates record not caught up. Let's parse. Company Hello Group (Momo) Q3 2021. Core business Momo and Tantan. Conventional yardstick likely total revenue, core Momo live streaming? Or overall group? Management discusses strategic priorities. They mention new apps: Sochio, etc. They say "In addition to the core Momo, we continue to advance our strategic priority of enriching our product portfolio and pushing the boundaries beyond Momo and Tantan. Amongst overseas-oriented projects, Sochio... has been an outperformer... Sochio continues to show steady improvement in retention and monetization potential. In Q3, we stepped up our marketing efforts, targeting high-value users. As a result, Sochio generated robust revenue growth, driven by both user base and ARPPU expansion. Number of paying users increased to 50% compared to at the beginning of the year and ARPPU more than doubled over the same period of time. We believe Sochio has a strong competitive advantage in the MENA area. Our plan is to continue to invest in its marketing channels as long as it remains on target for ROI. The goal is to form a self-sustaining commercial cycle so that the product can achieve rapid growth in both users and the revenues, at the same time, not hurt the bottomline of the company." Also "In addition to this early success in overseas development, [indiscernible] a voice-based social app primarily serving the [indiscernible] and [indiscernible] a video matchmaking application targeting lower-tier markets continue to progress well toward ROI target. Currently, we are still seeing lots of potential in video matchmaking category, especially in the lower-tier cities. Therefore, we are going to continue to invest in these new apps to drive growth, both in terms of users and in terms of revenue and profit." Later Q&A: "So my question is on our non-Momo and Tantan apps. So besides Momo and Tantan, we also have several new apps like Hertz and also TuiTui, Sochio, et cetera. Could management share some color on the user growth outlook and the modernization outlook for these new apps?" Management answers: "So for the ROI oriented new apps, we mainly focused on the scale of paying users.
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