Priced like the old business, running like a new one: management is redirecting the call away from the metric investors
The model's full reasoning — Q4 2022 call → NOWe need to determine if management repeatedly redirects attention away from the conventional yardstick and toward a different part of the business that is already earning, and conveys that the record hasn't caught up. The transcript is a typical earnings call. Management discusses various products: EYLEA, Dupixent, Libtayo, aflibercept 8mg, pipeline, etc. The conventional yardstick for Regeneron is likely its overall revenue, product sales, or perhaps the performance of its key products like EYLEA and Dupixent. But the question is about redirecting attention to a different part that is already earning but not yet reflected in results. Look for management explicitly setting aside a conventional measure. For example, they might say "don't focus on our current revenue, focus on our pipeline" but pipeline is not earning. Or they might say "our future growth is in oncology" but that's not yet earning. The question requires that the different part is ALREADY EARNING, not prospective. In the call, management discusses many things. They talk about aflibercept 8mg as a potential future launch, but that's not yet earning. They talk about Dupixent growth, which is already earning and is a major part of revenue. They talk about Libtayo, which is earning. They talk about pipeline candidates like fianlimab, odronextamab, etc., which are not yet approved or earning. Is there any indication that management is redirecting attention away from the conventional yardstick (e.g., total revenue or EYLEA sales) to a different part that is already earning but not yet reflected? For instance, they might say "our future is in oncology, and we already have Libtayo sales growing" but Libtayo is already part of reported results. So that wouldn't be a gap. The question asks: "does management REPEATEDLY REDIRECT ATTENTION AWAY FROM THE MEASURE OR STORYLINE BY WHICH THE COMPANY IS CONVENTIONALLY JUDGED and toward a DIFFERENT PART OF THE BUSINESS that it says is ALREADY EARNING TODAY — and does management indicate that this different part is not yet what the company's reported results or outside understanding reflect?" We need to see if management explicitly sets aside the conventional yardstick. For example, they might say "don't look at our current revenue, look at our pipeline" but pipeline is not earning.
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