Priced like the old business, running like a new one: management is redirecting the call away from the metric investors
The model's full reasoning — Q3 2017 call → NOWe need to determine if management repeatedly redirects attention away from the conventional yardstick and toward a different part of the business that is already earning, and indicates the record hasn't caught up. The transcript is from SB Financial Group's Q3 2017 earnings call. The company is a bank holding company. The conventional yardstick for a bank is typically net interest income, loan growth, net interest margin, etc. But here, management emphasizes non-interest income, particularly mortgage banking, SBA lending, wealth management, and servicing portfolio. They talk about revenue diversity. They mention that mortgage banking volume declined but they improved profitability through better pricing and pipeline management. They highlight SBA loan volume and gains. They also mention assets under management growth. Let's read carefully. Mark Klein starts with highlights: GAAP net income, EPS, loan balances, top-line revenue, expenses, assets under management, mortgage origination volume, asset quality, SBA loan volume. He then discusses five strategic initiatives: revenue diversity, scale, scope, operational excellence, asset quality. Under revenue diversity, he says: "We continue to deliver strong and non-interest income as a percent of total revenue, even though mortgage banking business declined this quarter we still achieve the 40% mark representing over $13 million year-to-date and a 3% improvement over the same period last year." He talks about mortgage banking volume declining but loan sale gains expanding due to better pipeline management and hedging. He mentions servicing portfolio at $979 million, strategic goal of $1 billion. He talks about SBA lending strategy providing bottom-line improvement, with production and sales. He says they are on track to deliver over $1.2 million in loan sale gains for the year. He also mentions wealth management division expansion. He then talks about scale, scope, etc. Tony Cosentino, CFO, gives details. He mentions net interest income up, loan growth, but also non-interest income. He says fee income as a percentage of total revenue was over 40%. He discusses mortgage originations down but gains on sale improved. He mentions servicing portfolio.
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