Priced like the old business, running like a new one: management is redirecting the call away from the metric investors
The model's full reasoning — Q2 2023 call → NOWe need to determine if management repeatedly redirects attention away from the conventional yardstick and toward a different part of the business that is already earning, and indicates that the record has not caught up. The transcript is from Tyson Foods Q2 2023 earnings call. The company is a major protein producer (Beef, Pork, Chicken, Prepared Foods). The conventional yardstick for Tyson is likely overall earnings, especially the commodity protein segments (Beef, Pork, Chicken) which have historically driven results. In this call, management discusses challenges in Beef, Pork, and Chicken. They highlight that all three core proteins are facing market challenges. They also highlight the strong performance of their branded foods business (Prepared Foods) as a key growth pillar. They say "our branded foods business is the key growth pillar for the future, and in Q2, the business performed well." They mention strong margins, share gains, etc. They also mention that they are winning with consumers and customers. Do they set aside the conventional yardstick? The conventional yardstick for Tyson is likely overall earnings or the commodity protein segments. Management acknowledges the tough quarter and the challenges in Beef, Pork, and Chicken. They say "I can't remember a time when our business faced the highly unusual situation that we're currently seeing, where all 3 of our core protein categories, Beef, Pork and Chicken are experiencing market challenges at the same time." They then pivot to the branded foods business as a bright spot. They say "Despite our overall results, there were strong positive highlights in the quarter that serve as proof points that our strategy is working. As you know, our branded foods business is the key growth pillar for the future, and in Q2, the business performed well." They also mention that they are winning with consumers and customers. They also talk about the Chicken business in detail, but that is still a core protein. The redirection seems to be toward Prepared Foods (branded foods) as the growth engine. They also mention international expansion. Do they indicate that this different part is already earning? Yes, they say Prepared Foods performed well, with strong margins, share gains, etc. They also mention that they are investing in it. They also mention that they are growing volume and share.
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