Second source of growth quietly turning on: management is adding a new way to grow that does not require winning new dem
The model's full reasoning — Q3 2018 call → NOWe need to determine if management describes gaining a new way to grow that does not depend on persuading new customers to buy, i.e., growth from internal assets, existing customers, etc., and that it is already beginning to work in the current period. Look for statements about using existing capabilities, holding loans on balance sheet, selling less, retaining more, using deposits, etc. The transcript mentions: "we’ll continue to develop new technologies" but that's future. However, there is a clear discussion about shifting from selling loans to holding them on balance sheet. That is a way to grow the balance sheet and recurring revenues without winning new customers. They say: "you should expect to see us sell less loans into this market and retain more on our balance sheet." And they say: "holding more loans and migrating to a more recurring revenue model is a strategy you’ve heard Live Oak talk about for a while. Recent events will only accelerate that transition." And they say: "we have both the capital and the funding to manage this shift." Also, they mention that they have the ability to portfolio up to $2 billion. They say: "we won the Best Online Account Opening Bank in the country from the bank rate monitor folks which would give us theoretically the ability, if we wanted to, to portfolio maybe up to $2 billion." But that's about capability. But is this described as already beginning to work? They say: "This quarter saw an increased softness in the secondary market for SBA loans, significant premium declines, prepayment speeds increased in tandem with rising rates and a flat yield curve. The shortening of duration depressed premium pricing, and you couple that with market competition that reduced spreads and that further pressured secondary pricing. On top of that, the number of buyers pulled back from the secondary market during the quarter while there was a significant amount of supply of loan sales. All that came together to reduce the gain on sale in the quarter. It also had an impact on the servicing asset, as Chip mentioned. We really believe that the market is under-pricing these assets right now, but we also think it’s going to take time for the technical factors to run their course." That is about the market, not about them already doing something.
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MKTX · Q3 2017 → YESThe question is: Does management describe that the company has recently GAINED A NEW WAY TO GROW THAT DOES NOT DEPEND ON PERSUADING NEW CUSTOMERS TO BUY — something already inside its own walls, and i...YES The transcript shows management describing exactly this dynamic in open trading. Rick notes that “Open trading is increasingly becoming an important distribution channel for dealers and their efforts to increase trading velocity and reduce balance sheet usage,” and that “Our vast network of investors and dealers operating on the open trading platform provide an additive tool of liquidity for dealers to move bonds.” Dealer-initiated open trades hit a new high of 24 % of total volume, and open trading already accounts for 37 % of U.S. high-yield volume, 15 % of high-grade, and 13 % of emerging-market volume. These metrics are presented as current-quarter results (new record participation, 51 % rise in price responses, $56 billion traded, ADV +29 %, transactions +45 %), not as future plans. Management treats this as a meaningful, already-operating growth engine that runs on the company’s existing installed base of liquidity providers and clients rather than on winning new ones. The same logic appears in the micro-lot discussion, where the platform’s existing liquidity is already capturing 23 % share of sub-$250 k trades—greater than all other retail ATS platforms combined—without any new customer acquisition.
ZH · Q3 2021 → YESThe question is: Does management describe that the company has recently GAINED A NEW WAY TO GROW THAT DOES NOT DEPEND ON PERSUADING NEW CUSTOMERS TO BUY — something already inside its own walls, and i...YES The transcript shows management describing exactly this: the joint-creation feature (launched October) lets text creators authorize video creators to use their existing answers as video scripts and share copyrights, turning 1.8 million pieces of already-authorized content into new videos that drive millions of additional views and engagement. They present this 1.8 million figure and the resulting video metrics (e.g., 4 million-view and 2.59 million-view examples) as real, observable effects already occurring in Q3, not future plans. They tie it directly to higher video consumption penetration (37% of DAUs), creator income, and overall community monetization efficiency, framing it as a meaningful new growth engine that runs on the company’s existing content library and creator base rather than solely on acquiring new users. This is presented as already working and central to sustaining the 115% revenue growth and 110% paid-member growth. The answer is therefore YES.
CRS · Q4 2021 → YESThe question is: Does management describe that the company has recently GAINED A NEW WAY TO GROW THAT DOES NOT DEPEND ON PERSUADING NEW CUSTOMERS TO BUY — something already inside its own walls, and i...YES The transcript shows management describing the hot strip mill commissioning and Athens facility as already enabling new revenue streams from existing soft magnetics and aerospace capabilities (e.g., producing for FAA-certified motors and sensors), with these outputs explicitly tied to current-period activity rather than future plans. This represents an internal growth lever—leveraging 100% owned assets and approvals already in place—independent of acquiring new customers, and management presents it as actively contributing to the recovery narrative in the current quarter. While broader backlog and bookings reflect market demand, the specific mill and qualification details are framed as a fresh, self-contained growth mechanism now in operation.